tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post4351010708111790063..comments2023-06-19T13:55:49.396+01:00Comments on Radio Shak: Money For NothingShakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13657830810835591711noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-66661378915281574872010-08-31T19:48:15.555+01:002010-08-31T19:48:15.555+01:00I think both spirit-wise and obligation-wise we...I think both spirit-wise and obligation-wise we're in far better standing if we fund distribution separately from what's owed. Personally I'm not sure why anyone would want to spend any of their zakah on "admin" (as opposed to, I dunno, feeding someone), but hey.<br /><br />Not quite sure what the rest of your comment is talking about, but yes, I totally distinguish between Zakah and Sadaqah, and have less issue with how the latter is spent.Shakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657830810835591711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-72399620727751259082010-08-31T04:35:27.053+01:002010-08-31T04:35:27.053+01:00disagree?
never heard that before. thought is was...disagree?<br /><br />never heard that before. thought is was pretty clear.<br /><br />do you interpret the sadaqat as sadaqa generally, not specifically the institution of zakat?<br /><br />what about when He speaks of those who establish prayer and those who establish zakat? what bits of scripture/common sense speak specifics to this?fugnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-89625838652689585282010-08-26T23:56:22.150+01:002010-08-26T23:56:22.150+01:00Yes that is true-in terms of GiftAid someone I kno...Yes that is true-in terms of GiftAid someone I know and fellow doctors he knows have set up a registered charity so they get the Gift Aid bit and they don't use any money on admin-they pay for their own flights etc n so far they have set up and run orphanages and hospitals etc with staff in Africa-so even though they are still quite small (maybe about 10 doctors running it) they are making a difference.<br />He does photography too and they are all ICT literate so do all newsletters etc themselves and their website etc. <br /><br />You're right though there should be greater clarity as to where the money is going and GA etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-42593439582858493432010-08-26T22:48:15.889+01:002010-08-26T22:48:15.889+01:00You might be interested in tonight's Newsnight...You might be interested in tonight's Newsnight piece on "chuggers".The Big Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13824130545139171385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-45493377982037743642010-08-26T18:57:37.993+01:002010-08-26T18:57:37.993+01:00Incognito,
I agree, charities should be paid (I b...Incognito,<br /><br />I agree, charities should be paid (I begun my post with this). However, I don't think giving to individuals is necessarily the correct answer. Firstly you'll be losing any Gift Aid (I ended my post with this), plus there are the other considerations Anon makes.<br /><br />I tend to diversify my donations and split it between direct donating and individuals (which can be both local and remote). It's also worth bearing in mind that you can give in advance during the year preceeding your Zakah date to lessen the burden of getting rid of your money.<br /><br />But I guess the main point is that it's not that I don't trust that ICs will spend my Zakah properly post admin fees, but more that they're not being transparent about what Gift Aid is. No non Islamic charity resorts to such measures (although admittedly their donors might be less concerned about where donations are directed).<br /><br />Fug,<br /><br />Well the reason they've chosen such strategies is precisely because most Muslims wouldn't give Zakah + admin if it was written as such. If they did, then your Quranic inference (which as an aside I disagree with) wouldn't matter.Shakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657830810835591711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-42566580442748925592010-08-26T09:37:11.897+01:002010-08-26T09:37:11.897+01:00Giving your money to well established charities (l...Giving your money to well established charities (like Islamic Relief or the Red Cross) will go a lot further than giving it to indicviduals, even when you take into account their admin costs. The charities have the infrastructure and economies of scale to ensure that donations reach the people who need it most as quickly and efficiently as possible. Registered charities in the UK are subject to strict reporting and investigation regimes. Whilst their transparency could be improved, it is certainly more transparent than giving it to a network of individuals who you may not even know. I offer this defence though I am not connected to any charities, other than as a donor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-37104197094788513332010-08-26T01:20:57.246+01:002010-08-26T01:20:57.246+01:00The value given to the money bit is the central bo...The value given to the money bit is the central bone of contention here. <br /><br /><br />Quranically, thos who administer are permitted to receive zakat.<br /><br />but i fear that:<br /><br />we may be losing the skill to perceive need help on our own individual, or networked initiative.<br /><br />we might be losing sight of virtuous purpose because of bureocracy and 'gift aid' and Charity Commission good books and participation in dufff 'developmenty' circlesfugnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-17841642825021474892010-08-26T01:19:52.986+01:002010-08-26T01:19:52.986+01:00With charities as big as the ones you have mention...With charities as big as the ones you have mentioned it's inevitable that you need people working for them a lot more-and the only way to enable that to happen is if you pay them.<br /><br />However, there are charities out there who really do NOT use your money for admin fees and these have been set up by professionals who work together and use their own savings to run the charities.<br /><br />I would suggest that the best way to guarantee that your money goes where you want it to. So for example I know of someone who visited some small villages in Pakistan and realised that there wasn't much medical care, schooling for girls, clean water etc so got together with a few families and they set up a few things.<br /><br />The one thing we should realise is that the money we earn here goes a long way in 3rd world countries and the charity we give becomes sadaqah jaariya (which is one of the methods of continuing to receive good deeds even after we die).<br /><br />The technical details for charities set up here is a bit much for me and personally I like to put money for people's needs and do so as and when i/someone i know is visiting Pakistan and currently even in parts of Africa.<br /><br />If you can afford it then do your research and go down to the places which need the money the most and build water wells, schools, hospitals or anything you can afford to do.<br />Even something small like for example someone i know gave money to someone for a sewing machine as her husband had passed away and she had no other means to feed her family-this sewing machine became her life. Someone else i know donated a man a 'scooter' so that he could travel for work into the city...its the real things that make the big difference...<br /><br />AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com