tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post1191929597612045142..comments2023-06-19T13:55:49.396+01:00Comments on Radio Shak: Islamic ReasoningShakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13657830810835591711noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-297106436458730312009-07-12T12:11:34.890+01:002009-07-12T12:11:34.890+01:00When I re-read Mohammed assad's 'The Road ...When I re-read Mohammed assad's 'The Road to Mecca' last year, one part which stood out for me was him lamenting the lack of applied reasoning at that time. <br />I agree that we should search for different viewpoints instead of regarding one as an absolute truth.<br /><br />And yes, asking 'Why?' reinforces and reaffirms our faith. <br />But unfortunately, too few see it this way. Instead they blindly follow, choosing to shut off their intellect.bb_aishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05881678054666657761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-13754923992513554922009-07-03T17:10:44.252+01:002009-07-03T17:10:44.252+01:00I didn't think you were undermining the Prophe...I didn't think you were undermining the Prophet (pbuh), but just thought you were simply stating something which is not that simple. <br />"I don't expect any of us to have to communicate with Angels or go on a Night Journey/Ascension, but we do have access to the same Quran that he did. It's also worth noting that the Prophet was in deep thought and contemplation about God, life society and morality etc way before the first revelation." I completely agree. However to understand the Quran i'm sure you need to have tools. No one gave you a book of Biology in school and said take this and grab yourself a dictionary and return for an exam after year or so? However i'm not saying we shouldn't contemplate on each single letter of the Quran. It's amazing how Quran forces us contemplate over and over again. <br /><br />But again, i'm not sure what you trying to say "I think we can (and should) use all four Imams as sources for what we each think is correct practise and not just pick one exclusively to learn from. In this way each of our practices could be very different in the detail but equally correct via process."<br /> Its very simple for me. Infact i've never seen this to be undermining my own ability to think or rationalise but instead it blows me on the genius of these Imams and helps to have a better understanding. By reducing to follow one Imam all i'm doing is following a centuries old tradition which has worked for millions and millions before us and still is working. <br /><br />Please see the following<br />http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/newmadhh.htm<br /><br />All i mean by social level is; how we are as individuals and different situation arise for different individuals. But as far as the law is concerned, it's law. What else can i say? <br />All in all, i don't want to comment on anything related to the law and rulings/fatwas. That, alongside much more, i don't know about.Mansoornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-29820017845861170212009-07-03T16:39:27.116+01:002009-07-03T16:39:27.116+01:00Mansoor,
Thanks for your comments.
>"His...Mansoor,<br /><br />Thanks for your comments.<br /><br />>"His (Prophet's) Head" was not like any other head and i think it's not as simple as you have pointed out.<br /><br />I think the biggest quality we can take from the Prophet was that he was human. As a perfect example, he showed us our potential and whatever he was able to achieve I believe that we are all able to as well. Anything else would be an obstacle of us being able to aspire to be like him.<br /><br />That said, I do recognise that he was uniquely blessed and placed in a unique position. I don't expect any of us to have to communicate with Angels or go on a Night Journey/Ascension, but we do have access to the same Quran that he did. It's also worth noting that the Prophet was in deep thought and contemplation about God, life society and morality etc way before the first revelation.<br /><br />In short I didn't mean to undermine or disrespect the Prophet, and I don't. My point was to stress the importance of rational thought processes over simply magically being told the answer. In my opinion the Prophet did more of the former than the latter, and we should follow suit.<br /><br />>This is to show the variety of thought and rich ness of deen not conclude our own rulings. <br /><br />I don't think our own conclusions have to necessarily be new or original ones. They just have to be affirmed by us as individuals rather than just because XXX said they were. So for example I think we can (and should) use all four Imams as sources for what we each think is correct practise and not just pick one exclusively to learn from. In this way each of our practices could be very different in the detail but equally correct via process.<br /><br />>If you are talking about day to day stuff on a social level, i can see where you coming from but if you are seriously talking about the law than i'm not too sure. I think you need to draw a clear distinction between the two.<br /><br />I'm not sure what the difference is to be honest. Could you give me an example of each, and further, how you decided which category they each fell into?Shakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657830810835591711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8048953.post-4672118544294155232009-07-03T16:21:16.536+01:002009-07-03T16:21:16.536+01:00Interesting... while i agree with you on people cl...Interesting... while i agree with you on people clicking away for fatwas, i struggled to understand your points about the "conclusion" that you say the Prophet (Peace be upon him) came to. "His (Prophet's) Head" was not like any other head and i think it's not as simple as you have pointed out.<br /><br />Again i agree that we need to know the differences of opinion. This is to show the variety of thought and rich ness of deen not conclude our own rulings. <br />"We need to see where opinion differs from fact, where interpretation differs from the literals, and then take them all to make our own." I agree, If you mean, we can draw a social understanding from these but not for legal ruling. <br /><br /> If you are talking about day to day stuff on a social level, i can see where you coming from but if you are seriously talking about the law than i'm not too sure. I think you need to draw a clear distinction between the two.Mansoornoreply@blogger.com